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A family dinner, a picnic in the woods—what could be more innocent? Well, in Ada, or Ardor, everything is tinged with a baseline feeling of “kind of creepy,” especially the “passionate pump-joy exertions.” Chad and Brian break it all down, talking about Demon, unraveling Nabokovian puns, finding subtle hints about Van’s true parentage, and, at the end, unveiling Season 14’s book.

This week’s music is Will Butler’s “”

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