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Vanessa Stauffer from Biblioasis came on this episode to talk about the Booker Prize, about the jacket copy she wrote for the ¶Ù³Ü³¦°ì²õÌýgalley, about types of moms, about things in the book that pay off and mysteries that remain mysteries, about the ways in which Ellmann is breaking form and the strong feminist perspective underlying this narrative, and much more. It’s a fun, free-wheeling conversation sprinkled with tons of amazing quotes from the book, talk about mom.com, and much much more.

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