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Chad and Brian go it alone and discuss “navel gazing” novels, books that entertain vs. ones about the prose, where Eltit’s novel resides on that spectrum, Tommy Pham slapping Joc Peterson, shit in the bed, and much more.

This week’s music is “It Was Us” by Arms and Sleepers.

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